Last week I instastoried something that got a lot of engagement and pushback, and I thought I’d bring the discussion here to you all who presumably are more design enthusiasts. It’s about kids + my money philosophy, which is always a fun topic, LOL (P.S. did you read my Substack about how we talk to our kids about money, part 1?). I’m currently decorating both my kids’ rooms. One who wants to be highly involved (Elliot, my 10-year-old daughter) and one who wants it to be cooler than it is but is mostly ambivalent outside of being concerned that I’m going to make it look too “designer-y” (my 12-year-old son). I’m having so much fun on both of them, but ok fine, probably more fun with Elliot because she wants in on the process, has HUGE opinions, is super engaged with every detail, and is just so clear about her art direction. So this summer I tried to carve out time to take them both shopping for their rooms for the fun stuff, and I realized that while I have a lot of existential fear and anxiety about my job inadvertently spoiling them, I sure am fine spending money on some stuff for their room.

While I absolutely let them weigh in on my furniture choices, I’ve learned now not to give them too much carte blanche freedom with investment pieces, or they will choose whatever looks like the most garbage-y, funky piece, which tends to be from Amazon ads. Think super fuzzy bean bag chairs, anything that could look like it involves gaming, spinning around, swinging, squooshies, etc. So I usually show them 2-3 options after I shopped and found pieces that make sense for them now, look nice in a room, and have some longevity (while admittedly some pieces might only work for them the next few years as they age). This is all super privileged, obviously, but it’s also my job, and I have a business to run so I’m not going to buy them a crappy $80 purple fuzzy lounge gaming chair that is going to fall apart and look ugly (and become MY problem) in a year. So furniture is mostly my domain, with recommendations that they get to choose between. GREAT.

Now when it comes to paint colors – it’s mostly freedom, with my “expert” guidance (I learned my lesson on permanent wallpaper for KIDS – DON’T DO IT unless you are ok changing it once they become tweens). I’m fine with repainting every few years because it’s fun for me and part of my job. Oh, here’s a HILARIOUS story. So as you know, Elliot wanted purple walls for her room. We sampled 10 or so of varying degrees of saturation. I strongly cautioned against getting anything too purple, and she chose one of the semi-muted ones, but the even more muted ones that I loved felt “sad” or “gray” or “boring” to her. But like I warned her, once it’s on ALL THE WALLS, even the more muted colors will become more saturated (it’s a volume game). So there are certain times of the day where she loves the color and other times where she says it’s brighter than she thought it would be. She laughs about it, knows that it was her doing, and we plan on breaking up all the walls with more art, so I think it will be fine (they are still empty walls now, so it’s more overwhelming). BTW, I still really like the color (Grape Mist) and I’m surprised she says it’s too much for her (only in the evening, strangely when the light isn’t bouncing around). So this isn’t a mistake, just some insight and a great reminder to us all – color gets exponentially “bigger” the more of it that you paint. Painting a bed frame that same color would have read the perfect amount of purple, but on all four blank walls it feels like A LOT OF PURPLE. Anyway. We like it enough, and it’s not a thing, but I just wanted to flag that for you. On to money talk.
Art and decor is where we all can bring in our personal style. Kids included. This is where they can feel like it is their room, during whatever kid stage they are in, and it’s where I love/crave their involvement. Now this isn’t for everyone. Most parents just want their rooms to not have empty walls and for their kids to clean their rooms. But again, since this is both my passion, hobby, and job, I get to really indulge in this stuff with my kids, which is something I’m so grateful for.
We make our kids buy anything with their own money that they “want”. We cover their “needs”. Needs are food, clothing, shoes, sports uniforms, basic toiletries, etc. They save by doing chores; we sometimes do allowance, they get money for birthdays, etc. And since we started this a year ago, it works. Sure, when we are on vacation we might buy them merch or a souvenir, and we certainly indulge in treats when we are on a family outing (we don’t make them pay for their own ice cream or anything), but if they want that dumpling squishy or squooshie, it’s on them. They no longer complain or push back.

Yes. Buying them stuff so they enjoy hanging out with me is manipulative, but it’s exactly what a lot of parents do at sporting events. Brian wants to go see a game and spend time with kids – shared interest, bonding, etc. But kids go for the cotton candy, junk food, and sweets until they actually are interested in the sport. There is no way that my kids (when they were little) were going to use their own money at a vintage mall. But since it’s my favorite thing to do and I want to enjoy doing it with my favorite people, I have to be realistic about what it takes for them to enjoy it. I mean, if I’m going for work, I leave them at home. But going to Aurora with my family on a Saturday, popping into some antique shops and then getting lunch at Filberts is my fantasy day. And them complaining the whole time ruins said fantasy day, so therefore I have to take manipulative measures to make sure they enjoy it:)
So yes, when it comes to vintage shopping, flea markets, makers markets, or thrift stores, I give them “free money” or buy them a few things (within a common-sense reason, obviously). It doesn’t need to be a “need”, because inherently none of these things are needs – they are decorative. For a while I was giving them $20 each and letting them decide what to spend it on, but it wasn’t enough for them to get too excited or to buy much. We’ve done scavenger hunts when they were little (so fun). I’ve bought them stuff for their rooms, costume jewelry, gadgets, boxes of old Legos, remote control cars – I’m enthusiastically open to anything. And I tell them all the time what a good eye they have, or what cool style they have. Like sports, it’s a lot of encouragement so they build their vintage shopping confidence. I really try to make the day as fun as possible, so they associate the experience of vintage shopping with FUN. Something they’ll look forward to, not something their mom makes them do that they dread. So yes, it’s part of a bigger manipulative scheme to eventually take them to the Paris flea markets, of which I’ve never been!

I really do think it’s a particular muscle that needs to be exercised; otherwise it can feel overwhelming and kinda gross at times. If you walk into your first thrift store when you are 30, you might think it’s disgusting (I know I’m preaching to my crowd here). But for most of us who grew up thrifting, even that smell is nostalgic and wonderful. It’s my job to teach them how to hunt for the good stuff, how to spot it, and what prices make sense.
A lot of the stores in Portland are a mix of maker goods and vintage. These are my favorites and are soooo good here (thrift stores have gotten so expensive and so picked over in Portland that the antique malls are often the same prices for a much more curated experience – plus I’d rather give my money to vintage vendors than to thrift store chains). So we go to Urbanite, Cargo, Stars, Monticello, Aurora – all the best ones that are guaranteed to be a good time. These all have new artists as well as curated vintage, and I find the pricing really reasonable (not cheap, but reasonable).

I will absolutely admit that Target, World Market, and Ikea have pretty dang good mass market art and I’ve 100% bought it many times (was in Target last week and their still life collection or vintage landscapes were seriously so good). There is absolutely no shame – when you can get something pretty good on a budget and fast, well that’s nothing to be snobby about. Sometimes you just want your walls to NOT be empty. I GET IT. For a few projects right now that we are over budget on, I’m definitely using Target art. But for my house…



If you have the budget and you enjoy the hunt, I think that spending money on either contemporary or local artists or vintage art through dealers is one of the best ways you can spend your home decorating budget. It’s a real win for all. We need art in this world to help give the world meaning and beauty. To help cut through all the other stuff and be surrounded by colors, textures, soul, and emotion. But artists can’t survive without a client to buy their pieces. So I think it’s my responsibility to try to seek them out as much as I can afford. We’ve written a lot of posts about this – where to buy art online (Etsy, Uprise, Tappan, Saatchi, etc.), and I’ve highlighted a lot of my favorite local or non-local contemporary artists over the years (of which I’m so grateful I can finally afford).

Vintage dealers are another gift to the world. They are the ones that scour the thrift stores to find the gems, and while they mark things up, trust me that the profit margin isn’t enough for the amount of work they do. You can’t scale vintage. And people think they need to haggle, and fine if you want to offer the top of what you are willing to pay, but trust me that most of the time they aren’t trying to screw anyone. I recently went to an estate sale with prices THROUGH THE ROOF (like 5k pieces of art, $1,200 pieces of busted vintage furniture). Sometimes it does feel offensive. But most of the time they are hustling so hard to find the good stuff that if they broke it down, their hourly rate would be shockingly low. Quick note: rug dealers often bake negotiating it into their profit margin; it’s more customary with them to price high knowing that they’ll give 20% or more off, FYI. And of course, if you are buying many pieces from one dealer, you have more leverage to ask for a discount. But if you are just buying one thing and it feels reasonable to you, just happily pay for it if you can. You are supporting people doing the good fight.
So yes, if I like the artist or a particular piece and my kids show enthusiasm around it, then I’m usually happy to support the maker, artist, or dealer by buying it full price (even if it’s splurgy). I want to show my kids the value of art and decor but encourage them to buy from these sources when possible.
Everyone has their thing, within their own budgets. Some might be sporting games or theater tickets (which I also enjoy). But vintage shopping with my kids and buying personalized things for their rooms is my vendiogram of happiness.
Opening Image Credits: Photo by Kailtin Green | From: Birdie’s New Tween Girl Wall Color (Bye Bye Butterfly Wallpaper)
Great read! I do the same thing with my kids and my love of gardening – make plant nursery trip as fun as possible and get them a plant to independently love and care for.
I am located in Portland and appreciate your recommendations for curated art/antique shops here.
Also…have you ever seen April Coppini’s charcoal drawings? She’s a Portland artist and her bees are incredible – I own three. But she does other animals too and every time I see her pieces I think about how they belong on your walls!
OOh i don’t know April, but will look up now. I’m always looking for new artists. Last night I was on FBMP and found a few, too (I’m training my algorithm and its working). Thank you thank you!
Just checked her out, what beautiful pieces! Thanks Marissa 🙂
Love this! A great reminder to bring our kids into our interests. But did I miss something? What was the thing you got push back on?
Junky things from Amazon, I think she said?
Oh sorry, I should have explained that! Just a lot of people on IG responding that art isn’t worth spending money on, pretentious + privileged, just decorative, etc. But you have to take it with a grain of salt – there are a lot of followers on social that aren’t that into design so I get it. TONS of positive comments, too though! it didn’t bother me, just made me solidify and double down 🙂
Ah makes sense, thank you Emily!
I appreciate this thoughtful discussion. It’s wonderful to teach kids how to have an eye for vintage. However I have a big point to add, about mindfulness of dopamine buying and clutter. My decorator mom was obsessed with decor, antiquing and thrifting. I was thrift/ flea shopping from birth. My mom is very talented – and also low key undiagnosed depressive /ADHD. She’s in her 80’s and still very addicted to shopping. I am a master thrifter – but it was an addiction. With my own low key depressive /ADHD tendencies it led to hoarding/ cluttering. During COVID I planned to start a vintage shop- which led to more buying. Unique vintage items are hard to get rid of. I couldn’t stand being in my cluttered house, so I went thrifting – even though the smell, bulk buying resellers and competitive vibe disgusted me. Emily this is not you, since you do a lot of activities with your kids but buying things for fun was the only activity that my mom taught me to do to relax, and the only thing she did with me as an activity. I didn’t go to museums, play sports, see movies with her –… Read more »
Oh yes. Shopping for “fun” is for sure marketed to women. This past weekend visiting fam, all the females made a plan to hit their fav local “cute” boutiques. I went to be social and try to connect but since I dont get dopamine hits from shopping, I hated it. Hated crawling up and down endless aisle of cute seasonal items I have no use for. They ate it up. Buying something became part of the group activity so they could bond and participate in the ritual of it and I just couldnt relate. I didnt not like how it felt to be forced to go shopping in order to get the bonding experience, which is what I actually wanted. I know you do many other things with your kids, but there is just nothing in me that would want to train my kids to like shopping just so we could be together. I would just go to the Paris flea on my own because I would love every minute of admiring the history and craftsmanship of old things.
I don’t love new shopping either (I like some unique boutiques but I rarely need anything so it does feel redundant and a waste of time unless I’m being introduced to new makers). I have some girlfriends who also love flea markets but otherwise we choose hiking/walking/biking or spa stuff for bonding. I also think its generational. Where i’ve landed is that I mostly shop, even vintage, if I am working on a project that I’m buying for. Not just going to go (I used to do that and yes I was and still have hoarding tendancies – hello prop garage). I actually told Elliot that one of the keys to vintage shopping and not feeling overwhelmed is to home in on what you are looking for (in this case purple art) and don’t bother looking at furniture or clothes or anything else or we’ll be here all day. I’m really trying to convince myself here that this is healthy, LOL, you know ‘purpose driven shopping’. They’ll be in therapy for something so maybe this will be it, 🙂
I think you are so right (and I, too have a vintage shopping addiction that I have to watch FOR SURE). I think this is such a great point. Its funny though that I had the opposite experience growing up and I was so jealous of moms and kids shopping together, making a tradition of back to school shopping, so maybe its a personal fantasy of mine based on that. But yes its absolutely a balance, making sure you do all the other activities and have mutual interests outside of shopping, even if it is thrifting, and such a good reminder.
Ha, yes, everyone I know with kids is either trying to recreate the childhood they had or provide the 180 opposite of their childhood. Who knows which way any of our kids will end up.
Teaching your kids healthy thrifty shopping is a great skill. I was literally just wishing I had a prop garage. Instead my house is the prop garage. (-:
Thrifting was a tough one to break for me since back in the day ( 70’s-80’s) it was so undiscovered, special and so cheap that the money was ‘off the books’. Today’s pricey picked over thrift over is a boon for me. I set a timer for 20 mins to be aware of time, fill the cart then put 99.99 percent of it back. The dopamine comes from cart filling not buying.
I think you are mostly right on the money (so to speak) regarding kids and buying. With the caveat that shopping for entertainment can be way overdone. I just wish I’d had an “art budget” when my family was young.
P.S. Another thought: When I was growing up, my mom (who came of age during the Depression) conveyed mostly a lesson of looking for ‘cheap.’ This had the effect that it took me a long time to really consider quality when buying and not being “penny wise and pound foolish.” Emily sounds like she’s already conveying that to kids.
Thank you for sharing. Truly, I think you and Brian are nailing it. Responsibility, learning, balance.
Very interesting. Re: thrift stores versus antique stores, I had the same conversation just yesterday. Charity shops in the UK have become ridiculously expensive and you can now get MUCH better deals at antique shops because they actually understand the value of what they’re pricing.
I have a15 year old and a 6 year old. All their art is vintage, Etsy type, or older kiddo has a cool screen printed movie poster he got as a gift. They have picked the art (with me on the 6 year old), so it is unique. None of it is very expensive.
Furniture I have purchased pieces that can grow with them into adulthood. Either the best we can afford as new, but more often than not vintage solid wood. I do lead test them. Both kids have quality dressers and bookcases that can move with them one day. Both dresses were used as changing tables back in the day for them.
I’m trying hard to not teach them to be consumerists when I can. Buy the best quality you can afford, in a classic shape.
“Used furniture, support local artists” has become my mantra. Great post, Emily!