A few people keep asking the same questions about this project, which made me realize that I don’t think I’ve talked about them. Maybe this project came out of nowhere, like, there is another house on the property? A guest cottage?? So it seems like all the whats, who for, whys, and hows (and how muchs) need to be addressed. So today I’ll do my best to answer the macro questions with the answers as of now – knowing that, of course, they might change and shift as time goes on, our family grows, or new circumstances arise.
The best answer is that since we aren’t sure, we want it to be a big flex space that one could live in if needed (thus calling it the guest cottage). Upstairs could be my office, the canning room could be a music room for the kids’ band (i.e., drumset), maybe a game/rompus room for the kids, and yes, a guest bedroom. In 10 years, we might be fully renting out the property, which might change every room. If a family or loved one ever needed to move in we also want it to be fully functioning home, but since it’s not for our family to live in, its, in fact, an “extra home” on the property, we aren’t going to treat it with the same level of amenities that we would if we lived in it. For example, it will have a functional kitchen, but it will be small and super efficient (not a huge fridge and no beloved pebble ice machine, lol). It will have one full bathroom and maybe a 1/2 bath upstairs (toilet + sink). If it were for us, we’d likely do two full baths and a powder. It won’t be “bare bones” per se, but since I’m not thinking about how we live there or how our family of four + 2 pups would need to flow through it every day, it will be whatever is most cost-effective and makes sense. The kids want it to be their teen hangout space, which I would typically laugh at, but we have ALLLLL the kids over here all the time, which we love, so part of me is thinking maybe we do make it a big bonus area for them so I keep them nearby (under my watch) as much as possible. Elliot wants a gymnastics room, Charlie wants a gaming room (they both know they are dreaming), Brian wants a speakeasy, LOL. But what about me?? I also don’t have a dedicated office, so the upstairs could work well for my Portland crew to meet, so they don’t have to be in my house (which sounds fine at first, but it’s not ideal to be inside your boss’s home all the time). In fact, we rarely “work” here – we shoot here all the time and will meet in person if we aren’t on a team Zoom, but since it’s in my home and kids/dogs are around, if they need to be working on their computer prepping content, they always do it at home. In a way, this works because it’s very hybrid (which I think is ideal), but there are days when I think working together in more of an office setting would add to collective creativity. So, since we don’t know, we’ll make it functional but not design any room specifically with built-ins, or we won’t change the layout because we simply don’t know what it will be used for.
Nope. We do not want to move any walls. The only one I’m trying to figure out is the interior room (the “living room”) that looks out to the chimney in the other (old prop) room. Curious if we open that up, close it, or just embrace that oddity. We want to add the full bath on the first floor (especially if anyone older needed to stay with us – those stairs would be dangerous), but we hope to do it under the stairs where some of the existing kitchen cabinets are (tbd).
I’ve done enough projects to know that this could cost a lot – $500k easily. Remember, it needs a completely new foundation, all new electrical, plumbing, HVAC, sewer tie-in, engineering, a roof, windows, and it has asbestos, mold, and pests. She’s not in good shape. So the answer is that no, we don’t have that budget. So we are going to hustle hard to book whatever partnerships make sense for this restoration and do it slowly over time, creating content we hope will be really enjoyable and engaging along the way (which is the business). We will spend/splurge on the stuff that we HAVE to (foundation) or design elements that we are extremely excited by (i.e., maybe hiring an artist for stained glass window panes or doing that custom English-inspired metal and glass door behind the sliding door that a lot of you mentioned in the comments). Essentially, this won’t be a super budget story because, by nature of the extent of work, it’s going to add up. But I’m not wiring for sconces, I’m not ripping out the old wood floor to put in new pretty herringbone flooring – we’ll be very specific about how we spend the money and really, really try to use everything that is worth salvaging in the house. We won’t add “good to haves,” only “need to haves” (don’t quote me on that). Like all things in life, we’ll strive for a balance, and it will be full of trade-offs.
This is the first project that we aren’t hiring a General Contractor (as of now) to save money. I really, really, really want to learn the entire process, and we aren’t in a rush because we don’t need to live here. So I will absolutely be hiring my brother when it makes sense (or just asking his advice help ALLLLL the time). So I’m going to try to project manage this on my own, get multiple quotes for everything, hire the subs by myself (good luck to me!), etc. I will not be doing this totally on my own – I have Gretchen, Brian, my brother, who I can lean on when it makes sense, and I might be recruiting other friends/experts. I have NOT reached out to all the “restoration coaches” that emailed (I’m so sorry – I’ve been secretly out of town so much!!).
I mean, all the obvious stuff, right??? I’m sure it’s way more. The more relevant list is likely below.
I don’t know! Definitely vintage, cozy, vibey, and heavily inspired by what it was before (it’s so charming). I’m always drawn to Scandinavian and Victorian (together), but no, this house won’t just be a smaller version of our house. But it won’t be this wild departure, either. I love living in our house so much – the whole thing flows so well, it doesn’t feel busy at all, and it’s easy to maintain and feel fresh/clean. But I’d love to make this guest house really vibey and colorful. Still comfortable and easy to live in, but I can’t, for instance, add wallpaper anywhere because there is pretty paneling on every surface – including the ceiling. I know you guys might be sick of hearing me say “simple but special,” so maybe I’ll have to rebrand that for a bit, but it’s still what I love to live inside. Just more color, whimsy, unexpected patterns on fabrics, and maybe more fun?? I also really don’t want to fall into the cottage core or granny-core trends. Yes, Scandinavian is less “in” right now, “Old World England,” aka hyper traditional, is way more du jour, but I still prefer a pared-back warm vibe. And I’ll always love modern art :) What it won’t be is hyper post-modern, and yes, you can expect some Room Service furniture in there as we expand the line.
Listen, I like to move fast because it’s fun and I love this part of my job so much, but we have to spread this out to pay for it. And listen! I’m so excited that for the first time, I don’t have to rush. A renovation usually involves someone trying to get back into the room to live in it, it’s usually so disruptive to our lives, but not this one. I guess I’d be psyched if the kids have it by mid-junior high, but knowing me, it will be before that. When I get a bee in my bonnet…
Not yet, but I approach every new job, new project on a case-by-case basis. And I have to know the rough timeline before I can pitch them and guarantee my deliverables. For now, I fantasize about what partners would be right for this particular project (a list of what we need and what we want is happening), and then I pitch them (which is a lengthy process, sometimes taking months). Since I want to do a lot more hands-on work here, maybe there is a larger home renovation brand that I could pitch for a longer-term partnership to be our go-to source. Maybe there is an online platform that wants more video content that we can produce in-house. I’m looking more at macro partners, not tile or lighting. At this point, I know what I need to do to stay healthy as a business while depleting our resources through content creation/renovation. It really has to feel right in this vintage home and be something that I’m excited about, design-wise (or just really, really make sense).
Well, fixing the foundation is first (and will likely take months). I received the first quote, which was a lot, but we kind of knew that (I will be talking openly about some of the financials where appropriate). Looking for more quotes now to really make sure that we are hiring the right crew. Meanwhile, the blog posts will be more about the beginning stages of the design process and solving all the quandaries. The articles will be based on what is actually coming up as a problem to solve or a design conundrum worth bringing to you. I’m sooooo open to all your ideas, feedback, and questions. We will likely treat social and YouTube differently, but my hope is to continue the Thursday guest cottage cadence. Even if it’s just an update with the latest electrical quotes or some design inspiration that I’m obsessed with.
I’d really like to hear your ideas on what you’d love to see. Here are my hopes:
We are also doing a lot of decorating makeovers, knowing that this project will be in the restoration stage for a while, so if this isn’t your thing, don’t worry – it’s all a balance. Thanks so much for reading :)
*Photos by Kaitlin Green
I think this is a golden opportunity to educate your readership on process and decision-making, the things that actually matter in a way that a lampshade or rug choice will not. Looking forward to a slow, contemplative behind-the-scenes!
I’m so here for this! I love seeing all the nitty-gritty of the boring work that is required to renovate a house that is in bad shape. It’s so surprisngly expensive (which is not talked about enough!) and it requires such talented, experienced teams to do the work correctly, and it brings up all kinds of challenges ranging from execution to people management to financial. Bring it on!
I also, of course, can’t wait to see how you design it too! Bring me all the guest cottage content!
Thank you! and yes everything feels so expensive these days. I feel like 10 years ago you could do a lot with 50k and now contractors say thats its barely enough to update a bathroom. Our parents generation could remodel a whole house for $100k (or so it felt like) and now its just unbelievably expensive to make any changes. I’m glad that the trades are doing so well, though and I want contractors to be able to really support their families and lives. But its just hard to throw these numbers out there casually when its just so much.
Do you have a great local architectural salvage business in Portland? They might have a lot of interesting products, ideas, & expertise (though harder to sell things through affiliate links, obviously). Might be worth considering for this fun project! I would love to see more content on reducing waste/incorporating existing items rather than brand-new everything (thinking cool clawfoot tubs, old hardware for cabinets, maybe even antique windows) into renovations.
Love this!! Generally I wish more people knew about/used architectural salvage! Our house was built in 1892 and has been through some bananas muddling; as we have made changes and added various things back in I’ve been using only vintage doors in the main parts of the house so that, say, a new toilet room doesn’t stand out nearly as much as if it had a crisp new door next to all the old paint-caked ones! It makes a huge difference. (Also adding thresholds to new doorways makes them flow so much better in an old house!)
I know she’s mentioned a few of those places in the area before, like Aurora Mills, so it’s probably on her radar 😊
I *love* hearing about the cottage! Keep these posts coming! I’m into all of it, and excited to read about how you’re making decisions, how the DIY stuff is going, etc. Your excitement for this project really comes through and is so fun to read about :)
So excited to watch how this emerges!
Excited for this but struggling with visiting the site every day. The site constantly refreshes when I’m trying to read a post. This is the only site I have this issue with. I get the content is free for readers but it’s really frustrating having to find my spot again multiple times on one post.
this sounds like it’s a problem with our ad network! do you mind sharing your browser? (and if anyone else has this problem, please let me know – i’ll flag that we are having some weirdness so they can take a peek!)
I also have problems with reading your blog. It crashes a lot. AI told me it’s because blogs have large images, video, tracking ads, and pop-ups.
ahh, noted! if you all don’t mind mentioning your browser (chrome, safari, etc.) and method (desktop computer, mobile, tablet) i can get this taken care of! the updated site redesign means that we’re firing as fast as we can – there must be a bug in the way that the ads are populating. i’m sorry!!! thank you for letting us know :)
Not the original commenter but this happens to me too – site crashes and reloads, putting me at the top of an article. Chrome on mobile for me. This has been an issue for a while but I never thought to bring it up.
I’m using Chrome and it happens when I’m on my iPhone and my iPad. Thanks for the quick response.
Also happens to me! Safari on mobile :)
Long time reader with unfortunately the same issues here. Crashes and reloads multiple times while reading story. I am using Safari on my iPad. Thank you so much for all of the wonderful content, however!
Long time reader here too who experiences the same issues. It’s my nightly routine to check the blog on iPhone with safari. Also sometime the images don’t show or they’re in the wrong order, off by one, so it doesn’t match the section of text, which can be confusing. Seems like the instagram ones mainly when that happens. I always thought it was an issue with my phone! lol
Chrome, same issues, iPhone
I have a MacBook Air with Chrome and I can’t visit the site without Chrome freezing/crashing, etc. It often affects my laptop’s overall performance tbh. It’s better on my phone (iPhone, Chrome) but the page often refreshes mid-post which drives me crazy. I’ve definitely been visiting the site less frequently because of these issues.
I use Chrome. The only problem I have, is the ads blocking the actual content. The ads cut off what I can read on the right side of the screen, or seeing all of a picture(s). You cannot close the ad, or wait for it to end. This happens with your videos that are on the right as well.
Safari, mobile, long time reader & long time crashing re-loading, bouncing around. Especially when the videos want to start playing. Thank you!
I have this problem all the time with your blog posts. As I scroll through them in my iPhone with safari, they reload frequently and then I have to scroll down to find where I left off and so many annoying pop up videos! Thanks for trying to fix the issues!
This happens to me a lot on mobile (iPhone, current OS). It doesn’t happen right away, so it seems like it’s because of the amount of media on the page. It’s has been happening on and off for years. I’ve stopped commenting on my phone – wait for desktop – because it’s really annoying to be partway through typing something, and them BOOM, reload.
I hope this doesn’t come off as rude, but my #1 question is…. Why is this a good candidate for restoration vs rebuilding? Would you advise a friend with this property to redo this house or to salvage it ?
In the YouTube video, she mentions that several contractors have told her that it would be cheaper/ easier to demo the whole thing and rebuild, but she just really loves the building, plus it is original to the homestead.
But why does she love it? It is one thing to keep a piece of artwork because you are sentimental about it. But for larger things, I try to focus on: what are the specific features of this that are objectively better than the other options? In my neighborhood, there are a lot of older homes. Some would be worth restoring, and some are a series of bad and worse decisions on top of a mediocre start and really should be ethically torn down – put the money into the homes that have something lovely and special to save.
This is me, not Emily, talking, but there’s considerable environmental cost to rebuilding. There’s a lot of embodied carbon in the house, and a lot of the materials really aren’t replaceable.
It’s like you are doing your own version of “This Old House”. I love it and I am excited to follow along in the process!
I’m going to say something controversial here: have you considered salvaging what you love in the guest cottage and then building new? It seems with all of the asbestos and lead removal, engineering, HVAC, foundation, roof work, you are pouring money into a project that in the end won’t meet your needs. Even if the vague goal is to rent out the property, there can’t be much of a market for haunted renovated Victorian outhouse. I could be wrong. Is chasing subs for the next 4-6 years really what you want to do? I’ve been trying to get an electrician and a drywall guy to take out can lights and replace them with light fixtures for six months. SIX MONTHS. Wouldn’t it be better to save for a few years, build new from the ground up while incorporating the salvaged things you love, and then have a fully functional space for you, your family, and your business? Is spending a lot of money to preserve something that was cheaply built 100+ years ago worth it?
Is spending a lot of money to preserve something that was cheaply built 100+ years ago worth it?
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I don’t get why the kids need so many rooms! They have their own rooms. There is a separate media room. They have the craft barn. They have the animals. They have a sports court. I was a privileged kid too. I had my own room, we had the family room and yard. I spent all my time in sports. I was only home at night to do hw. Why do they need all this? I get the Grammy flat thing but more for the kids??
I’m so excited about this process. I can’t wait to see how you retain the quirky, special features, while also making it practical and bringing in some of your modern design style.
The thing that’s especially interesting to me is the fact that our purchasing power is so diminished. But we can all learn new ways to adapt & I look forward to reading about the choices you’ll be faced with. Real life choices. :)
I love the idea of a slower-paced, piece by piece renovation. I think this series is going to be so relatable for a lot of people, like us, who are working on their homes a little bit at a time. I’m especially hopeful to hear about who you hire for jobs, because finding good subs to do little jobs on my house is sometimes really hard.