That is certainly the question du jour in our industry and this is one soup I do not want to eat. My book, Styled, was included in the now-infamous Books3 data set – It was one of the 183,000 books that were used (stolen?) by multi-billion dollar businesses like Meta and OpenAI to train their AI models. The entirety of Styled was ingested so these language models could, you know, learn about design and styling.
Last week I went to New York with Raptive, our programmatic ad network, and partnered with 33 other content creators to launch a campaign to regulate AI online. You see, these major tech companies have built tools that have scraped (and memorized) the contents of the entire internet. These large language models, as they’re called, have ingested every publicly available photo, every paragraph, every recipe, every instruction, and every DIY; now, with the simplest question typed in a search bar, the AI model will regurgitate a generic response, without crediting the sources of its information. This isn’t just a problem for those of us with internet jobs, though – if you’ve ever shared anything online publicly (a photo, a video, a comment to a friend), it has already been used to train at least one AI system.
Obviously, AI is here and certainly playing a victim to it isn’t the answer – we aren’t crying and obviously continuing to just work harder to innovate, diversify, and keep long-time readers coming back. So last week, in NYC, I joined a panel with Tieghan of Half Baked Harvest, Kaitlin of Woks of Life, and Kevin of Country Rebel – representing all of the content creators out there whose businesses are being directly impacted by these large language models.
You see, AI is capturing new readers that historically have stumbled upon our human-led sites by typing in “how do you make hummus” or “what size for living room rug.” Now most of us are getting ahead of this already (we’ve been trying to create non-AI-able content for the last two years which I wrote about here), and it’s our job to create such compelling content to keep readers coming back HERE every day – “direct traffic” is our north star.
But what our digital media industry is seeing, as a whole, is a newfound inability to turn searchers into readers. Said another way: let’s pretend that you’re just getting into design. Maybe you’re decorating your house for the first time, and you Google a question like “how high should I hang my curtains?” In the past, a reader might click on a link to our site – and maybe they’d like it, and they’d sign up for the email list, and we’d earn ourselves another regular reader! But now, Google’s Gemini model is serving up our words in a very generic form – the searcher is never even given the option to check out our site.
Ironically, EHD’s search traffic is up in 2024 – our team has been working really hard to make sure that readers can still find us in a sea of generated answers, for which I’m so grateful. But that’s not the case for many other online digital media companies – there are major drops in traffic to more evergreen (year-round, year after year) posts because of AI. We can all see the writing on the wall, so I’m honored to be part of the group working to find solutions on behalf of thousands of small web businesses out there.
Will we be fine? Well, ask print magazines (gone due to blogs – mine included), local news and newspapers (gone because of podcasts and digital media sites), and the early 2010s design blogs (killed by social media and Pinterest). The “information industry” always changes, staying ahead of it has been a very exciting challenge over the past 15 years and it’s just part of social evolution. Being a large player in this industry for this long is remarkable on its own. And listen, I’ll write this blog until I die because I love the hell out of being right here.
As the quantitative futurist Amy Webb recently said on Brene Brown’s podcast – navigating AI is like driving on ice, slamming on the breaks will kill you, you have to steer into the spin. Control the chaos and remain calm. The ice is cold and hard, but it’s here, and unless you want to get out of your car and walk you better learn how to drive on top of it to get where you want to go. I feel confident that Raptive – the tenth-largest digital media company in the world, with an online reach that’s larger than that of Hearst, Twitter, Fox, Reddit, etc. – is well-equipped to negotiate an agreement with AI companies that preserve the richness of humanity on the internet.
What happens if they don’t?
Well, what I warned last week (and what I firmly believe) is that the following three things will happen in this order:
- Food, parenting, decor, lifestyle, and fashion blogs will lose traffic and revenue. Creators and our teams will have to find new revenue ASAP. If we can’t, our businesses will close. All doable, but sad for true followers.
- The internet will become wildly uninteresting. AI will essentially be its own parasite, sucking the entertainment and fun out of digital discovery.
- As lifestyle websites powered by humans disappear, so will the quality “answers” that the AI has been scraping. Instead, it’s likely to serve up inaccurate and certainly un-nuanced answers to your questions. (This is already happening in a small way – like when Google’s Gemini suggested that searchers eat glue and rocks – but researchers know that it has the potential to get much worse, too. When AI models run out of information and begin ingesting AI-generated answers as a new data source, the models break. The entire internet, as we know it, would be rendered unnavigatable and unusable.
- Bored by the now generic internet, people will simply pick up their phones and go to TikTok – the platform du jour that has been engineered to be quite an incredible search engine (Instagram, less so). Do I think that Google will disappear? Nope. Those folks are genius and they’ll figure it out, as long as they’re not eaten by a skilled AI model (like Claude, by Anthropic) or a rival search engine (like Perplexity, which functions exactly in the way you probably imagined Ask Jeeves to work about 25 years ago).
What do I think should happen? Glad you asked.
The legal landscape here is fraught, which makes this tricky: tons of AI companies have been sued for copyright infringement and it’s unclear how those court cases will shake out. But I do think that the current business leaders in AI – Google, Meta, OpenAI, Anthropic, Mistral, etc. – have an opportunity here to partner with human creators who have been and hope to continue to create real original content. Serve human responses higher in the algorithm, above the AI-generated answer. Pay us directly for our work, or license it, instead of stealing. Work directly with digital media experts, like the team at Raptive, to identify creators who are adding value to the internet ecosystem. To be fair, there is also some hope here! Caitlin has had some great conversations with startups like ProRata.ai, who are working on attribution technology – basically ensuring that creators are credited (and compensated) when their information is used to power profits for a multi-billion dollar AI business.
I don’t want to sound all doom and gloom. AI has some incredible applications. It can sort through extraordinary amounts of information and it can make connections that seem invisible to humans. It can (and will) radically transform medical diagnosis and treatment. It can empower human learning, creativity, and exploration.
But in the digital media space, it falls short. So I’m advocating for the creators who add richness to our lives – creators who bring us killer dinner party recipes, creators who help us feel more comfortable in our bodies, creators who take us behind the curtain and make us feel less alone. I’m advocating for my fellow authors, whose books were stolen and whose words now shape every answer spit out by a generative AI model (including mine). And I’m advocating for you, too: AI companies have trained models on information stolen from all of us, without offering us an option to opt out. I think we all deserve better. Let’s keep the humanity in the internet – we all know that’s more interesting to read about, anyway 🙂 What’s your take?
(If you’d also like to help keep the internet interesting, you can sign Raptive’s open letter on AI here. Every signature helps as they continue to advocate for a human-first internet.)
Also, here is a list of all the creators that attended the conference! Please check them out, enjoy their real content, and give them a follow if you like their stuff:)
*Photos via Raptive
The rise of AI is indeed transforming content creation, including lifestyle blogs and websites, but it’s unlikely to completely destroy them. AI tools can generate content quickly, optimize for SEO, and automate tasks like editing or social media posting. However, lifestyle blogs thrive on authenticity, personal experiences, and unique perspectives, which are difficult for AI to replicate.
guys – the first comment on today’s post was written and posted by an ai! i normally don’t approve these, but it felt fitting based on today’s topic 🙂
Omg, amazing!! I totally bought it, as you can see from my other comment. Crazy.
Curious how you can tell it was written by an AI? Is this part of their plan to go around defending themselves creating false posters, or what.? Can you tell us which AI posted it?
there are a few signals on the backend (weird email & IP addresses, comment timing, etc.) but the writing style really gives it away! i love AI as a tool – i pay for chatgpt and claude, and the new google notebook product is genuinely life-changing – but after a few months of using these products daily, the formatting/tone/style of ai-generated content is SUPER clear. (i’d say it’s a akin to spotting an image that’s been photoshopped – some are super obvious, some are more subtle, but with time, you can always clock it!)
in this case, you might clock that it reiterates the question (“is ai going to destroy lifestyle blogs [and] websites” is the slug of the post). it gives three arguments for AI’s uses, and then three arguments against – these models have all been trained to be (hopefully) fair and (god-willing) ethical, so you’ll see this type of measured response ALL THE TIME. it just lacks a little bit of the flavor you’d expect from a human with opinions, you know?
That’s terrifying!
The food companies using high-fructose corn syrup had PR companies write letters/responses to anti-HFCS information. I got pushback on my own blog posts which were easy to send to spam but was shocked when my small-town local newspaper where I wrote a weekly column asked me to retract a statement after getting a cease and desist warning. So yeah. AI bots on the hunt comes as little surprise …
I knew immediately it was AI, but I fear that soon we won’t be able to tell.
omg!
I don’t necessarily agree… To use Emily’s example, imagine you search for “what size should my living room rug be?” You could easily get an immediate AI-generated answer and move along, vs. receiving a link to one of her posts, which then introduces you to the authenticity and personal experience available on this blog, bringing you back again and again. I don’t think enough people are going to go searching for that when they are already quickly and easily getting the answers they searched for.
I don’t want to just see regurgitated information on an AI website – I want to see and learn how people live, and what makes them different and personal and why they chose what they chose and how it works when it shouldn’t. Hard not to be gloom and doom when we not only see a beautiful young generation that is not only scared of making phone calls and avoids speaking to people in person, but thinks it’s silly to think this is a concern.
Who knows where it will end but I’ll continue reading meanwhile, and enjoying the content and interaction of this site, but above all the personalities and thoughts of the writers, the EHD crew!!!!
The next Fix It Friday – win a free rug!
Certain publishers and newsrooms are getting $100s of millions of dollars from tech companies for content…they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them – which is why the writers union was smart to strike on this topic…you probably need to establish your rights as a content creator in writing with whoever owns it / is distributing it / is hosting your content because who knows who is stealing and/or selling your content.
Thank you for this post. I admire your willingness to discuss it and to come up with solutions. Personally, I just can’t deal with AI. All of it. It’s just completely uninteresting to me. I switched fields from digital marketing to law and whenever I come across an article about AI and law I just want to scream. I know, I know, time savings yadda yadda – I couldn’t care less. What I like about this job is using my brain, and delegating work, even mundane, to an AI just feels off to me. One, because I like my job, even the mundane part of it, and two because trusting an AI is just too dangerous. I’m still back at school and i see students using AI for EVERYTHING – it’s completely beyond me why they would. Aren’t you here to, precisely, learn? Sigh… Anyway… sorry for the rant. I just clearly have a lot of feelings. Props to you, Emily and team, for advocating for a change and fighting the good fight.
I will remain a faithful 3-4 times a week blog reader – I feel like nothing really properly replaces the old-school blogging of the earlier 2000s. I’m personally not on Tik Tok, Instagram or Facebook, so I mainly get content from blogs, newsletters and YouTube.
Me too, Julie! We’re still out there!
Agree. I miss blogs so much. I hate AI. So freaking bland
I typed the query of how to high to hang curtains into google search and it returned an ai response with!! a clickable of your post EHD with a an illustration that was clickable and attributed EHD. So that is good.
What I’m looking for is a blend of early social media’s charm and the curated feel of old-school print—brought to life in a digital platform. I can’t stand the endless scroll or the chaos of today’s social media. While there’s a lot of great content out there, it feels so disorganized. Why can’t it be curated and organized better? Think of how a daily newspaper used to be: sports, politics, local news, global news, lifestyle, cooking—each with its own section, allowing your brain to focus on one thing at a time. Now, we’re constantly bombarded: a beautiful home, followed by a health alert, then a cute cat, and suddenly a tragic war story, all mixed in with a fall recipe. It’s overwhelming, and our brains can’t keep up with that level of context-switching. That’s what makes this platform so special. Here, the content is curated around specific topics, and it’s easier to process. If AI could help make content more organized like this, I’d be all for it. I don’t want to scroll all day, I want to check in once or twice to a well-edited platform that serves up content in an organized way. And I would happily pay… Read more »
This was such an interesting read. As a (technical) writer myself, AI has loomed more as a threat than a helpful tool in my life for a while now. I had no idea your book and the books of the authors at the summit had been subsumed into the AI database without your consent or compensation or attributions of any kind. That’s absolutely criminal! Thank you on behalf of all of us for fighting the good fight. I’ve been a daily reader of your blog since 2014 when, sure enough, I googled “what size rug should I buy” and that amazing video you and Orlando produced popped straight to the top of the search results, which then had me quickly searching for your blog. You’ve had a massive influence on my style over the last decade, Emily, and I can’t imagine the prospect of never having found your work. I’m glad to hear you’re hopeful about negotiating more fair terms with these giant tech companies, and as a content consumer, I’ll stand by you all however I can, starting by seeking out original sources of information rather than stopping at the AI blurbs at the top of search results these… Read more »
As a reader, this is why I’m loving Substack so much. I’ve been delighted to be able to read the kind of posts and content that has been sorely missed from the earlier days of blogging. It’s also been satisfying to be able to directly pay people (bloggers) I’ve read for years, or newly discovered writers, for their work. Has EHD considered the Substack app to play to your strengths and not have to go the TikTok route?
But it’s just way too many subscriptions! Isn’t anyone else tired of perpetual payments? No thanks. You can’t personally pay everyone who “deserves” it without eventually harming your own financial situation. If your retirement savings is fully on track/funded, mortgage/cars paid off and kids college all saved for, then subscribe away. But most people shouldn’t be doing this.
So glad you mentioned this. I agree that content creators should be paid for their work, but there used to be economies of scale in publishing — not everybody had to hire their own editor, etc. I also think there’s a big first mover problem with substack in that the earliest publishers hog the subscribers, and then readers get maxed out, so it’s going to be increasingly hard for new writers make inroads. Anywho, rant over.
A fair point, and the nice thing is that almost all subscriptions are free, with the option to pay (and either receive an extra post each week or sometimes there is no difference in post visibility). Lots of newsletters use links like EHD does to generate income. I rotate subscription payments, because I can afford a few right now, and of course that’s not always the case. I am living my ideal world of early blog charm and am so grateful. I urge anyone worried about the cost, but who like me missed the early blog days, to still try it because almost every substack is free to read, with subscription payments optional.
I teach college students and they figure out pretty quickly that AI production is not trustworthy, or interesting, or at the level of work they are being asked to produce and read. Will it improve? Maybe, but it’s not designed to be accurate, it’s just designed to sound accurate. That means there aren’t quick fixes for the problems it has with accuracy and citation. This might be wildly optimistic of me, but I think the shine is going to wear off LLMs. What they do is a party trick, and it’s not ultimately efficient or useful.
This update was fascinating! Thank you for being involved in this way and keeping us updated! I signed the letter and will stay tuned !
“It can (and will) radically transform medical diagnosis and treatment.” I think it’s interesting that you think this! I’m deeply skeptical. AI mistakes or hallucinations in decorating (paint everything metallic silver!) or diet (eat rocks!) are garbage information and not helpful. AI mistakes in medicine would cause deaths.
oh i love talking about this – i’m actually super hopeful here! it’s patently clear that AI struggles with creative tasks. but crunching data? THAT is a positive use case, IMO! i’m by no means suggesting we should all start seeing AI doctors, but scientists using AI have discovered a flurry of new, life-saving medications (in this case, AI suggested a treatment that sent this 82 year old man’s aggressive blood cancer into remission – something that 6 rounds of chemo wasn’t able to accomplish!) and have radically transformed their imaging analysis (30 studies have proven that AI-assisted imaging leads to faster diagnoses and reduced costs – it’s also WAY better at predicting breast cancer far earlier than traditional doctors!). there are countless examples and i genuinely think that scientists using AI will cure many major diseases within the next 5 years. but i totally agree with you that hallucination can be a dangerous double-edged sword (my counter argument – ai can’t be creative or make connections if it lacks the ability to imagine or hallucinate!), and that we should focus on AIs that process data over AIs that spit out copy. i do think that this is a GREAT… Read more »
I am a physician and rarely comment but had to chime in! I confess that I have not looked into some of the latest on what AI may be able to do in medicine. I do think that there will be many uses. Certainly, I appreciate EMR decision support tools, and I look forward to seeing how those evolve. However, I would caution people against thinking about medicine as a field that could be taken over by a AI. Medicine is a creative field! There are so many grey areas without evidence or even expert opinion. There is so much nuance. There is a reason it is called the “art” of medicine.
I have to tell you that I had an echocardiogram, and the comments on it about my heart status were alarming — they said I had a certain alarming condition (can’t remember what it was called). But when I saw my doctor, he said AI reads their scans first and writes the report, then a doctor goes through and follows up and corrects things. The AI almost always introduces error and alarms patients, who automatically get notified of the ‘results’ before the doctor has reviewed them. My doc has unnecessary appointments every week because of this, he said. I guess the idea is that over time the AI will get better.
I’m an author, and sadly AI only serves to hurt those of us who write fiction. My novel was used (ahem, stolen) to feed AI, and I regularly turn up AI summaries of it online. Agents and traditional publishers are swamped by AI submissions, which means more to wade through in order to bring quality work to market. My self-published friends have a similar problem, with readers forced to comb through an AI-stuffed Amazon list to find coherent books. On top of all that, just the accusation of using AI can be career ending — I’ve seen authors desperately try and prove their cover or content was not AI generated or assisted. Given it is so difficult to prove a negative, a good contingent of readers simply never believe them.
I now require assurances in every contract with my publishers that AI tools won’t be used in any aspect of my work, and am happy to represent the same to them. But I fully expect every novel I write to be stolen with zero compensation from tech companies. They’ve asked forgiveness instead of permission. I have no interest in granting either.
HEY EMILY! Long time reader! I feel like unlike those just browsing the internet in search for answers will want a SPECIFIC human point of view rather than relying on a AI generated response. So yes when I do search for “How high to hang curtains” an answer will pop out, it won’t give me the whys or inspo photos. Those people who just simply want a pre-programmed answer would not appreciate the artistry behind it anyway and would not appreciate your insight. Just my two cents.
I think the way forward is to become a TASTE maker. AI cannot generate that — it can only regurgitate. If people value your input and eye, they will rely on you for the answers. The antidote to AI is just being human. Hugs
So many food bloggers on that list, all real leaders in a strong, supportive community knocked around by Google, Pinterest and now AI … to say nothing of searchers impatient for “just give me that (free) recipe, dammit”.
I love the blog format, do not grasp Instagram or TikTok or even, recently Facebook which refuses to show the posts of my actual friends. They’re all timesucks with increasingly less value.
I broadened my RSS feeds to include more home/design blogs after discovering EHD about the time you started the new farmhouse reveals … heady times! Such reveals are unsustainable when you’re in your forever house but they remain, for me, the bedrock of my interest. (And it’s interesting to me, anyway, that the RiverHouse reveals are more clinical, less personal.)
Looking forward to more leadership from you and others re this important topic.
A thought: so many of these small creator businesses are owned by women. I find the arrogance of AI as very male dominant, women be damned.
I have found myself gravitating and reading the blogs that are made by humans, because they hit different, and I am sad whenever one shuts down. Thank you for including a new list of people I should checkout. I feel like there is so much garbage content online right now, and I am constantly feeling empty or like I have just ingested the same content of little value when I try to find something on the web. I have also been thinking about this in terms of sustainability, and how all of these large companies have departments that are focused on doing the work of sustainability, but are not addressing AI. AI seems in direct opposition to several of the UN Sustainable Development Goals, the exact goals many of these companies use as part of the criteria for their own sustainability goals. I am wondering if activist investors will start pushing this topic more, or if more people will start talking about it in these terms? There are so many contradictions when it comes to AI, hopefully it can be harnessed in a way that pulls data in a useful and insightful way, not just for the creation of garbage.
Great post Emily. Thank you for clarifying what AI can do and the damaging effects. I am not on Tik Tok, Instagram, or Facebook. I enjoy reading your blog and a couple of other ones that you mentioned in a previous post.
I work in a field (medical research) where AI is transformative, in ways that are delivering real value to people. When it comes to using creative content to train AI platforms, I’m not exactly sure where the line should be. If content is in the public domain (doesn’t require a license), its use can’t legally be controlled. I assume that most blogs and social media are in the public domain?
I’m wondering what Raptive is doing to help protect the creative content of its clients. Is it establishing content licensing agreements for its clients? It appears to me that there are media companies (Vox, News Corp, etc.) that are successfully negotiating licensing deals with AI companies.
Blogs remain the copyright of the writer no matter whether they’re published online or not. That is NOT what ‘in the public domain’ means; it means they’re out of copyright. AI scraping the entire internet including ebooks is 100% an infringement of copyright, which is why so many AI developers are being sued.
So pleased to see you advocating for policy solutions to the AI wild west. I think your suggestions will help both creators and readers. Proud of you! Thank you for speaking on it.
Long time listener, first time caller. I’m a bit of an anomaly here. I’ve read this site for years, I own your books, I watched Design Star … AI also happens to be my day job. I may regret this, but here goes nothing … First off, I’m genuinely sorry to learn your book was in the Books3 dataset. For what it’s worth, training data is a complex and opaque topic. One point of clarification: I believe Books3 was compiled to help models compete with OpenAI so I don’t think (at a minimum) GPT-3 was trained on it. I don’t know if we know for sure what models were trained on it beyond Llama (and BloombergGPT … but I don’t think we’re worried about the venn diagram intersection of Bloomberg and EH readers). Which is to say it’s possible GPT-4o was trained on it, but we don’t actually know for sure — OpenAI has been leaning towards legitimate deals with publishers these days and they would certainly want to avoid further lawsuits. Another point of clarification: Styled wasn’t ingested so that AI models would learn about design and styling; that’s not entirely how they work. Large language models are predictive… Read more »
My friend, who is about to publish a non-fiction book for children on AI, told me that every time we do ONE query on ChatGPT it is the same as leaving a light on for 15 minutes (not an LED light, either). The worst part is that it’s become so ubiquitous with teens (and if you have teens you know this is true right now) that they are using it to ask for simple things, like, what time is it? Other countries know this, especially European countries, and are actively against this kind of energy use and totally skeptical about AI, but the US could care less about messaging around the climate issue bc it isn’t in their interests. Microsoft needs energy so bad that they look set to buy Three Mile Island, a nuclear reactor in Pennsylvania. AI, coupled with blockchain, is already worse for the environment than airplanes.
Oh, interesting, i hadn’t even considered this. Here’s a link to some facts about resource usage: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/
I find all of this fascinating and am currently on a team to review new rules and regulations in the states and globaly but I am coming from the prosepctive from the health and life fields. I think alot of people loose scope of the broader picture and just how dentermential AI could be, especially when it comes to racial bias and distrimination. All that data that is being shifted thru out there and collected, recreated and then outputed without a human lens could potentially create increased disparity across groups.
Call me old, but I totally ignore any google AI answer. I know how it is gathered and don’t agree with theft.
Wow! And this post by you shows how much thought you have put into this already- you’re way ahead of most of us! It’s hard to see this happen, but it’s going to happen. I hope you get your recognition and compensation for contributing to the “intelligence”! I do like asking a question and getting a quick answer, but I also want to know the sources of the information so I can dig deeper and be confident in the answer. Best of luck to you and all content creators as you negotiate this fast and scary transition! I definitely think you all need to be recognized and compensated for your contributions.
I like to be able to evalaute the quality of whatever I am reading and check the souces by myself. Other than that anonyme results are just a copy and paste thing IMHO.
Internet is not anything you can inmediately trust by itself.
I like Google because it allows me to exercise my own judgement and select the source of information .
I don´t know if the time to trust AI by itself will come to me or ot. Garbage in garbage out. Good thing in not necesarily good things out-
We will see, I am not sure that AI will be able to substitute informed opinions, beyond the gathering of mere facts. Of course I could be wrong-
Thank you very much for this post- I have learned a lot of things from you.
Good luck. I hope you will be able to overcome generic AI-
I was designing a memorial program for my sister-in-law’s father’s memorial. She provided pictures and copy. The rest was up to me. On the back page, I proposed using the deceased’s favorite picture of himself surfing, and a poem. She didn’t like the poem for reasons. I sent her poem after poem after poem, all of which were rejected. On a whim, I asked chatgpt to write the poem. I gave specifics and, as fast as you could say Robert Frost, there was the poem. She loved it. Her sister loved it, the fam loved it. Even tho I told my sister-in-law it was chatgpt, the family freaked when they found out. I posited that ai was a tool, just like the layout program I used to lay the program out. There was a lot of pushback, but what won the day was the fact that this poem was one of a kind, written just for this purpose, no one else would ever use it. Eventually, the ai poem was ok’d and we printed the programs. Was it a bad thing using ai? Did it take away a real person’s bread and butter? I’m still pondering the what-the what of… Read more »
I’m just sitting back eating the popcorn waiting for AI legal forms to replace the “disrupters” (DIY legal forms) in my industry, none of which will actually provide families with the piece of mind form providers promised. The big new frontier is how to get good, solid information in front of people’s eyeballs in the sea of AI options.
Really appreciate hearing about what’s going on inside this industry as an old school (read: millennial) blog reader who worries about the artists!! You keep writing, I’ll keep reading. 😊